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Hello all you mommies,daddies,babysitter, all everyone else! Im buggy and Ive had this qustion for a while now.

 

how do you care givers feel about "brats" for those who dont know, here is the definition of brat giving by the bdsm.org website 

 

"Brats are, in essence, naughty submissives. They find disobedience a form of playfulness rather then letting their dominant down, and require a compatible dominate who will not only teach them a lesson, but also accept that any number lessons might not change this behavior."

 

How do caregivers feel about these types of littles and do you find them fun or annoying? 

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Well I know a lot of ppl who love them and even identify as a 'brat tamer' and it is interesting to know that some subs who are not littles, are also brats. There are lots of brats out there and lots who love them. Personally, when in a Domme role, I like some brattiness. In small doses and the more 'cute' kind. Anything more and it quickly becomes annoying + exhausting to deal with for me. I just dont find any joy in constantly and daily having to put up with that kind of behavior, or having to constantly 'forcibly' (not really force, but give them the illusion of force) put them back in their place (as they desire to be). But yeah, everyone is different. Some ppl like them, some ppl dont. Some ppl like a little brattiness and some ppl like a ton of brattiness. There is something for everyone so it all works out. Just my take on it.
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I think it’s important to note that not all Brats are little. I identified myself as a Brat before even discovering DDlg. I’ve come across a lot of Doms who dislike Brats, as well as many other who adore them. I think it’s up to the individual and doesn’t apply to everyone.

 

Although, I somewhat disagree on the Brat = naughty submissive. While it may be the case for some, I know a bunch of Brats (and myself included) who identify as non-submissive. It definitely still is a Power Exchange kind of deal, but we’re not really on the bottom, still not Topping either. I don’t do it bc I want to let Daddy down, and I’m not doing it to be punished or even tamed. It’s just the way I am, if that makes any sense. It’s really hard to put into words D:

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this is a great topic! i personally identify as a brat, and like alien baby, i also identified as a brat before discovering the cg/l community. i also disagree with the idea of brats being "naughty subs" because i'm hardly ever a brat on purpose, it comes more from my actual personality and who i am as person! also it's definitely a specific type of power exchange within the sub/dom dynamic, just as much as owner/pet is (for example). 

 

most caregivers i've come across haven't particularly enjoyed bratty subs/littles, but it's of course always going to depend on the caregiver just as much as the little isn't going to enjoy all caregivers! i personally don't ever plan on changing my "bratty" ways as it is a part of how i am, but that's my choice and doesn't mean everyone will feel the same.

 

(also to all the other brats who may read this topic, please don't feel discouraged if doms you come across call you annoying or anything else. they're just not the one(s) for you!)

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He has no interest in that kind of behaviour, and would not be with a brat, full stop. We both have the same opinion to be honest. We see it as tiresome and often manipulative.
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He has no interest in that kind of behaviour, and would not be with a brat, full stop. We both have the same opinion to be honest. We see it as tiresome and often manipulative.

while your opinion is your opinion and you’re entitled to that, calling a sub-group of submissives “tiring and manipulative” is harsh and very much a generalization which is not appreciated. some brats may be what you said, most are not. just like how some “bad” submissives and some “bad” dominates don’t represent their respective groups as a whole. please understand that for a lot of brats, their actions/words come out of a place of love for their dom and never are they trying to be “bad” unless they specifically state so. thanks for taking the time to read all this!
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I think the naughty submissive thing is a bit limiting, because everyone is different.

 

People tend to run from brats and bratty behavior, which is frustrating. I don't think folks really try to see it from our perspective. I'm not topping from the bottom. I'm not hurting anyone. It's playful and all in good fun and I'm fortunate to have a partner that understands and enjoys it.

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I think it's all about balance and prefer the term feisty over a bratty. As one writer above commented about a bratt being tiresome and maniulative, I don't want a submissive who is a milk toast, who doesn't have any initiative or drive. I find that would be equally as tiresome and boring.

 

I enjoy a challenge. That being said, I do like to know that my handiwork has had some effect over the duration of the relationship. Meaning that the submissive understands that certain behaviours will not be tolerated and their behavior has changed accordingly. That they have progressed and become a better person on various levels.

 

I also believe that my personality enjoys and fits the dyametrics of the bratt/feisty middle - so this works for me. I have a disciplinarian side to my personality who enjoys punishing the bratty little girl/middle. With a bratt there are always ways to feed this need and if the bratt has a masochistic side to her personality then the dynamic works well. It's all about finding balance and what works for you both.

 

Cheers

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I don't identify as a brat but I can be bratty. I find it fun and don't go over the top to be plain rude or disrespectful. I'd get a bit bored if I just did what I was told allll the time with no question and it wouldn't be as genuine because this is my personality.
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Long-time brat here. My husband enjoys it in small doses, but we've learned to navigate when and where such behavior is appropriate due to trial and error. It's usually my way of asking for a spanking without doing something that would cause real stress or anger in the relationship. I get attention and he gets to give it.

 

Littles and middles are highly needy, on average, and as such, bratting can easily get out of control, so it's important that both partners are on the same page and I highly recommend an adult conversation to set boundaries and limits to this behavior. Otherwise, it's non-consensual. We often talk about consent of the little, but forcing a CG to punish when he doesn't want to or feel like it is also a way of playing without the full consent of both parties.

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while your opinion is your opinion and you’re entitled to that, calling a sub-group of submissives “tiring and manipulative” is harsh and very much a generalization which is not appreciated. some brats may be what you said, most are not. just like how some “bad” submissives and some “bad” dominates don’t represent their respective groups as a whole. please understand that for a lot of brats, their actions/words come out of a place of love for their dom and never are they trying to be “bad” unless they specifically state so. thanks for taking the time to read all this!

That's why i said "often" rather than "always" for example. Of course it's not the same with everyone. And i do understand that the reasons are not the same for everyone. But yes, i only give my opinion. And it's the behaviour i don't agree with, not the people themselves.
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I suppose I'm a brat in the bdsm.org website definition that you gave. I'm never disrespectful and don't cross boundaries, but I'm veeeeeery playful and my boyfriend loves it, or so he told me. I usually tell him "no!" just so he can chase me around the house or attack me with tickles and such, and we have a lot of fun together. (okay, sometimes I just feel neglected because of his video games and I "lash out" this way, because it's either that or I withdraw into myself) At the end of the day, he knows that I respect him and that I'm very obedient the majority of the time, so it's just in fun :)

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As I explained to my partner, there is a difference between occasional bratty behavior and a full-on brat all the time. At the end of the day this is still a relationship between adults and both parties need to understand that to make it work there needs to be some "adulting" involved in the relationship. Sure it can be fun to bring that dynamic out but having that 24/7 is not going to allow for a healthy, stable, long-term relationship.

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I like good natured brattiness. I do not like disrespect. It's important to establish the line early in a relationship to avoid hurt feelings and frustration.
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