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    #1 BeccaBoo25

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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:39 AM

    Have you ever had an ex who knew you better than the person you were with? And like you still like them because of that but the person you’re with is like your soulmate that you’d never leave?

    Cause I have been dating my bf/Daddy for a year and 6 months and I love the heck out of him to the point I want to marry him. But I still love my ex who is my best friend and I also have a crush on a girl friend of mine.

    I’m a Christian so my religion is against polygamy, and being bi. So yeah, long story short, religion can be poopy :(
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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:07 AM

    Religion is poopy. Time to spread your wings and be free from it.

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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 03:03 AM

    I'm actually Christian and somewhat polyamorous (it doesn't happen often but still) and panromantic (meaning I like all genders romantically). I can tell you right now that the Bible has been translated so many different times that the original Hebrew and greek text meanings have been lost in translation. Clobber passages against LGBT folk like myself often actually speak against pedophilia and having sex with temple sex workers of different religions. Much of old Hebrew law was to separate them from other nations and a lot isn't applicable today because times have changed. God loves you no matter what sexuality you are. He made you special. And I believe that includes your sexuality.
    Now, as for being poly, I believe that if you do it right, it can really work as long as you are firm in your beliefs and morality and communicate clearly with all your partners.

    ((In case anyone asks, I've been studying the Bible for years and am very strong in my faith, don't come at me weenies))

    Edited by ForeverFluffy, 12 June 2019 - 03:05 AM.

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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 04:32 AM

    Being part of the LGBT community doesn't necessarily mean that you have to let go your beliefs or faith. 

     

    Religion and faith are complex. From my own experience, the religious experience really depends on what the individual person brings to it. People bring their own baggage to whatever they decide to believe in or not believe in. I think that's why there is so many different religions and denominations. No one has ever agreed entirely upon what everyone else should believe in. 

     

    I grew up Catholic. Undoubtedly, there is a traditional/conservative element to some of those that practice Catholicism, but there's also Catholics who are more liberal - want transparency in the Church, would like women priests, and want more lay involvement. Then there's people who fall somewhere between both camps of thinking. My parents, who were both brought up traditional Catholic, are now much more liberal in their views in some ways, at least. My Mother, for example, wouldn't like women priests, but has no problem with LGBT people whatsoever. I appreciate that people located in other places around the world will have a different experience of religion. Some towns are just more conservative than others. But I reckon people can still surprise you. 

     

    I have a friend, who recently came out as a lesbian, that was terrified of the conflict between her Christian faith and her sexual orientation. She lives in a small, conservative town in the US. I believe she joined an LGBT group aimed specifically for Christian believers and that has helped her personally a lot. Not all Christian denominations or churches are as against the LGBT community as others, some are supportive and know that a person can't help how their born. 

     

    I remember taking a course in Medieval Church History in college. In that course, the lecturer argued that the church is constantly evolving. Some regions in Europe during the Middle Ages believed only the clergy and those that directly served the church could be saved. So everyone else was basically screwed, regardless if you were a King or a peasant. I think most Christian denominations would reject this teaching today? But I think it shows how religion can change and evolve. Today, some religious people don't accept the LGBT community, but give it time, and who knows what could change? 


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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:17 AM

    Um... I'm Christian and Pansexual.

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    #6 BeccaBoo25

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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:55 PM

    Religion is poopy. Time to spread your wings and be free from it.

     

    I would but it's literally the basis of my life and my relationship with my boyfriend and family.



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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:59 PM

    I've been raised by strict Christian beliefs. Like, I have a friend whose mom is trans, female to male, and my parents are like "I feel sorry for her husband" "if that was me idk if I'd stay with them" but then at the same time are like "Till death do us part" XD. I feel like my bf and I joke about being bicurious but Idk how to take the convo further and I'm worried about his reaction. I know he will never leave me but that confusion and judgement...idk



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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 02:02 PM

    Look, you have the choice to follow in your parents' footsteps. They don't seem very welcoming of LGBT folk given how they misgender your friend's dad. But you don't have to follow their behavior.
    I think that the best way to talk about this to your partner is just to be honest and let him know that you're taking a big risk being this vulnerable. Let him know that you love him. And then give him space to come to terms to it.

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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 02:12 PM

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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 02:12 PM

    Look, you have the choice to follow in your parents' footsteps. They don't seem very welcoming of LGBT folk given how they misgender your friend's dad. But you don't have to follow their behavior.
    I think that the best way to talk about this to your partner is just to be honest and let him know that you're taking a big risk being this vulnerable. Let him know that you love him. And then give him space to come to terms to it.

    My parents would absolutely kill me and so would his if they ever found out. Half of my extended family would be fine with it but the other half wouldn't. And yeah, I guess I can talk to him and see how it goes. 



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    Posted 12 June 2019 - 03:24 PM

    That's where it comes down deciding if you want to live your life for you or for other people.

    I'm genderfluid, pansexual and 13 years married with a much younger Daddy/boyfriend who has collared me as a very serious life long commitment, on the same level as my wedding band. My very very Catholic mom doesn't understand but she still loves me and welcomes my Daddy as a member of the family.

    My inlaws aren't exactly happy but my wife told them in no uncertain terms it's our life, we are happy and they either are tolerant or they live without us in their lives.

    Life is too damn short. Those who matter wont mind and those who mind don't matter. Everyone has to choose how they want to live their life, personally, I refuse to live in fear, shame or worry. I like who I am and I'm damn proud of my wife and Daddy. Everyone else's opinion is just that, an opinion, and I for one wont lose sleep over negative opinions.

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    Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:22 AM

    Christianity as a whole isn't against bisexuality I don't think. Ass-backward bigots may be
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    Posted 13 June 2019 - 10:29 AM

    It is certainly evolving. I was speaking with my mom last night and she shared with me that she had spoken with her priest when I first came out as genderfluid a few years ago.

    His response was, "they're still your child and God loves them as he made them". I admit I was pleasantly surprised as her priest is of an older generation. Things are certainly moving in the right direction as a whole. A long way to go still, yes, but definitely far better than when I was a child.

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    Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:08 AM

    It is certainly evolving. I was speaking with my mom last night and she shared with me that she had spoken with her priest when I first came out as genderfluid a few years ago.

    His response was, "they're still your child and God loves them as he made them". I admit I was pleasantly surprised as her priest is of an older generation. Things are certainly moving in the right direction as a whole. A long way to go still, yes, but definitely far better than when I was a child.

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    I'm impressed the priest used they. What a boss

    #15 BeccaBoo25

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    Posted 15 June 2019 - 05:44 PM

    The reason Christianity is against it is because of the verses that are against it. https://www.biblestu...-homosexuality/

    Most common is in the New Testament. Romans 1:26-28, 1 Tim 1:8-11 etc.

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    Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:35 PM

    I'm impressed the priest used they. What a boss

     

    ^

     

    It is certainly evolving. I was speaking with my mom last night and she shared with me that she had spoken with her priest when I first came out as genderfluid a few years ago.

    His response was, "they're still your child and God loves them as he made them". I admit I was pleasantly surprised as her priest is of an older generation. Things are certainly moving in the right direction as a whole. A long way to go still, yes, but definitely far better than when I was a child.

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    ^ what I said, forgot to quote



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    Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:49 PM

    The reason Christianity is against it is because of the verses that are against it. https://www.biblestu...-homosexuality/
    Most common is in the New Testament. Romans 1:26-28, 1 Tim 1:8-11 etc.


    Yeah just refer to my first reply. They've been mistranslated. I've been studying the Bible for a very long time. The historical context of clobber passages (in both the original Greek and Hebrew) has been lost in the many, MANY translations over the years.

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    Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:58 PM

    The reason Christianity is against it is because of the verses that are against it. https://www.biblestu...-homosexuality/

    Most common is in the New Testament. Romans 1:26-28, 1 Tim 1:8-11 etc.

    Luckily there seem to be more priests and Christians that believe God made us who we are and loves us for who we are.

    Bible verse can be mistranslated and twisted for many purposes but the concept of an unconditionally loving God, well, people either believe that or they don't.

    Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and personally, I don't need a church or a priest to act as a middleman. I care about my fellow human beings and try to live that way and if that's not good enough, well so be it. I can't imagine a loving God, whatever that may be, that would condemn me for being who they made me.

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    Posted 17 June 2019 - 03:04 PM

    If you believe God created you and loves you unconditionally then people's opinions shouldn't matter

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