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I need your help, Caregivers!

 

I'm interested to know your thoughts on having a bratty little. These littles are not bashful and doting (at least not often). They need to be told off frequently, they will fight back, they may even bite! They thrive on being reminded who is the Big and who is the little. They will make more cheeky comments than anyone you've ever known, and will frequently be finding loopholes in rules and pouting when they get caught out.

 

How do you feel when you realise your little is more brat than angel? Or are brats your preferred type? Do you feel undermined, or do you relish the challenge?

 

Hoping to start a discussion and see the views of you Caregivers out there!

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Personally, I don't mind a bit of cheek, as long as there is balance between being bashful/doting and being bratty. Don't get me wrong, I like the former, but I think it'd probably be a bit boring if there was no cheek, no challenge...

 

But that's just me.

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Guest MyDaddyMyWorld

My daddy has no interest in bratty behaviour. Too much drama. It's a big turn off for him.

He has no problem with a little playfulness, but he loves me being his good, adoring, obedient little girl. He's had drama in the past and he said it's exhausting lol.

We fit perfectly. I don't have a bratty bone in my body. I just don't understand it. I only want positive attention for praise.

But yep, we're all different and different things work for different individuals and relationships. No right or wrong, just whatever works.

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Guest DaddyJoe

I prefer not to get involved with brats. My life is stressful as it is, I need someone that will go out of their way to make me at ease. I don't want to get involved with a girl that feels like upsetting me is a sport. I'd rather be alone than in that relationship.

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Is this only open to caregiver responses? Oh well too late i suppose...

 

Brats are so misunderstood or maybe I'm a diff kind of brat... Yes different Daddies like diff things but a brat is still as eager to please as any other little as the role is still a submissive one. There is also no "drama"... I never piss my Daddy off or try to upset him. I determine his mood and then adjust my "playfulness " accordingly. I think the brattiest behavior I've ever done (so far) was one Daddy told me no to something and i stomped my foot and rolled my eyes.. As soon as he turned and gave me the look i smiled and gave him kisses. I mean, there's funishment which happens when u really cross the line but all in good fun. Who wouldn't have fun with that? Lol

 

Sometimes i hate the negative connotation associated with being a brat. :/

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Is this only open to caregiver responses? Oh well too late i suppose...

 

Brats are so misunderstood or maybe I'm a diff kind of brat... Yes different Daddies like diff things but a brat is still as eager to please as any other little as the role is still a submissive one. There is also no "drama"... I never piss my Daddy off or try to upset him. I determine his mood and then adjust my "playfulness " accordingly. I think the brattiest behavior I've ever done (so far) was one Daddy told me no to something and i stomped my foot and rolled my eyes.. As soon as he turned and gave me the look i smiled and gave him kisses. I mean, there's funishment which happens when u really cross the line but all in good fun. Who wouldn't have fun with that? Lol

 

Sometimes i hate the negative connotation associated with being a brat. :/

 

Being a DD in a relationship with a brat, I agree with your side of this. My little does not upset me when she acts like a brat, it's usually all just for fun and in play or she just wants more attention, in which case she really enjoys pinching my cheeks <_< (lol). She's still there to please and she doesn't go out of her way to actually try to annoy me, when I tell her that's enough bratty behavior, she usually immediately stops and will not further continue, and if she does, it turns into exactly what you said, "funishment", which is still rare to happen. She told me herself, if I give her a line, even during play she feels it's quite disrespectful to cross that line. Most times however, if I tell her to stop or not today or whatever, she immediately does and she continues to be little, but without the brat-side.

 

It works for us, it doesn't for everyone and that's their own right.

 

As for the actual OP question...

 

 

How do you feel when you realise your little is more brat than angel? Or are brats your preferred type? Do you feel undermined, or do you relish the challenge?

 

I'm happy and perfectly fine with her being a brat. I don't personally have a preference, it adds some extra fun to the relationship. If she was completely obedient and never went out of her way to grind my gears, it wouldn't bother me either, I'd be happy regardless. As far as feeling undermined, no, of course not, she knows the limits and understands when it's time to stop trying to pinch Daddy's face off. I wouldn't say it's so much as a challenge since it's quite easy to end the behavior if I so choose, but as I said, I do enjoy it.. so yes I suppose?

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Guest Naturalselectionissexy

I need your help, Caregivers!

 

I'm interested to know your thoughts on having a bratty little. These littles are not bashful and doting (at least not often). They need to be told off frequently, they will fight back, they may even bite! They thrive on being reminded who is the Big and who is the little. They will make more cheeky comments than anyone you've ever known, and will frequently be finding loopholes in rules and pouting when they get caught out.

 

How do you feel when you realise your little is more brat than angel? Or are brats your preferred type? Do you feel undermined, or do you relish the challenge?

 

Hoping to start a discussion and see the views of you Caregivers out there!

 

 

Based on your definition this is not a desirable quality in my eyes and as others have put it, its simply exhausting. 

 

I certainly think there is an acceptable level of pouting and whatnot, but being completely defiant is obnoxious, and I find it incredibly disrespectful. I've dealt with some high maintenance girls that were bratty and it wasn't fun.    

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Okay, so where do you draw the line? Is it cheeky to find a loophole in an established rule, or is it disrespectful?

I'm asking all of these because I'm a very bratty little! I will make cheeky comments, I will tease and play and pout. But I don't set out to break rules or upset my Caregiver. It's just playful behaviour, in my eyes, so I'm interested to know what Caregivers think of it!

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There's a different between being a Brat and being a Brat. There's a brat, where they're just straight being a "brat" being disrespectful, rude, mean, hurtful, and just no fun to be around.

 

Then there's being a Brat. Where your playful, smartassy/cheeky come backs/jokes, getting excited and letting your hyperness run wild, playfully pushing small buttons, maybe a small pouty tantrum to be cute when you want something.

 

I believe a lot of people get them mixed up. One is like angry and most the time those people don't even realize how nasty they really are acting/simply don't care. One's all in good fun, not to be mean or upset people, not to be self-centered. Just cute playfully behavior. Meant for fun and jokes. I'm a little bratish, but I ever try to upset or anger my Mister Master. I don't set out to misbehave, be disrespectful, or be mean/angry to people/make them angry. That is being a Bratty Brat as I like to call it. Lol

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Having barely any experience in the DDLG world I can't say for sure, I've done more Dom/Sub stuff but I do know when my sub fought back, bent the rules, or tried to overtake me, it was the best experience in the world. It gave me a reason to really exert dominance and take control.

 

I could see myself loving a bratty little, its an adrenaline rush to have a power struggle. It might also be because I like to switch roles on occasion and be the submissive, but I'm not the type that submits very long either, it comes in bursts. But at the same time, there's a clear difference between playfully being a brat and fighting back, and being just plain annoying. Of course, you have to wonder also if you're going too far yourself when she's being a non-playful brat. For all you know she might be doing it for a reason.

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I can say for sure I am a brat but my brattiness is in a playful way most of the time. I am sarcastic and sassy a times and I can't always choose when (my brain to mouth filter likes to malfunction at the worst of times). I may be a sub/little but the guy I am with has to earn it. I do not submit easily unless they have proven to me they can take proper care of me. I guess me testing them in the beginning can be called being a bratty brat but I do not do much to get on their nerves I just do small things here and there to see if they will stop me and keep me in line (not too strict but then again I have to be told no and feel like they mean it). I think it is rude to cross a line that you were specifically told not to and I would never do that. There are just different kinds of brats out there I guess.
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There's not much of a way to directly describe what kind of little I am, though It has been made apparent I have bratty tenancies. I'm not too much of a brat. (I think)

I may not have a very strict Daddy, but he gets alittle more gruff when it's needed. I tend to get pouty or difficult, and he is patient with me. He understands alot of my troubles, but still steps up occasionally for some slight verbal discipline. I hope that I'm not to difficult on him, because he constantly worries about failing as a Daddy no matter what I try to tell him.

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Fundamentally at the end of the day it's a different kind of dynamic. No two littles are the same, no two people are the same, they can be quiet, they can be loud, they can be shy, they can be outgoing, they can be doting and wellbehaved, they can be obnoxious and bratty. It's entirely a personal  preference whether that's what you'tr interested in or not but I think anyone who would attempt to discredit it as a legitimate form of Littledom is a complete moron.

 

Me personally? I've never found the completely doting, utterly submissive little all that exciting to be with, it can be nice of course but I really need a bit of kickback to awaken that parental form of dominance in me, that said there's always a line and if that line is crossed the that needs to be addressed. I think for a lot of little however the brattiness comes from a desire for punishment, pushing boundaries in order to have the fun that can come from punishments, though that's a generalization. Also an element that people leave out almost entirely is little doms, where the little in the relationship is the dominant party, not the CG. In those kinds of relationships brattiness is basically a central tenant.

 

Brats are natural, brats are great, brats are just as valid littles as any other kind.

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I'm still fairly new as a daddy dom. I started out looking for a sweet/doting little, but actually some of my best interactions have been with bratty/cheeky/loop-hole-finding littles. Both because they threw more wood on the fire to ignite my daddy energies and also I felt the satisfaction of my abilities having to meet the test.

 

I think the distinction others have made between the two types of brat is useful. For a healthy relationship to function there has to be some play (in the broad sense). So there is being a brat as a style of play (positively engaged, brash but still looking to please etc) and a brat that basically isn't playing - or isn't able to play. The second type is exhausting because the energy is all one-way. They would need support and nudges toward playfulness for the relationship to survive. However I think both types are valid.

 

A sweet-bratty spectrum is kind of an imaginary line to make this easier to talk about, I know there are littles who wouldn't identify with such a spectrum. In the end, I have kind of opened to appreciating the full range (bratty or otherwise) and no longer have a strong preference.

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I feel like there is a difference too between being a brat of any kind and being emotionally needy. Which on the surface can very much seem the same. I'm extremely emotional at times (ok, most of the time). I have had a very rough year (life) last year and if my Daddy wasn't as patient as he is I honestly don't know where I'd be right now. He has been my solid ground. My rock. And from the outside looking in it might just seem that I'm a bratty spoiled little bitch. And that's just not the case. He understands this and when something happens that's upsetting for me we talk it through. We are a thousand miles apart so he can't just hold me while I cry either and i need the physical contact which just make the pain of being apart swell up on top of what ever else I'm dealing with. It's hard sometimes. I am trying (with Daddy's help) to find away to control my emotions better. Most of the time he actually thinks it's cute. Lol like on a visit to him I was shopping with his mom while he was at work and thought it was going to be hours before I would see him. He got off early and called her to find out where we were and walked up behind me in kmart and suprised me. I of course start crying and hugging him like he just came back from the war. So sometimes it isn't a bad thing. So maybe if it seems like the little is being bratty maybe there is something deeper emotionally going on there and she just needs someone patient enough to help her find the words. Sometimes it takes Days for me to figure out why something has upset me. And we both understand that things can fester if you don't address them, especially in a LDR But after being together and working together as a team Daddy came up with a good way for us to stop things before they can get worse emotionally for me. As soon as I feel the bad feelings I say "Daddy i have a problem!" And he stops what he is doing and opens his arms and holds me and says "what's wrong kitten?" And if I can i explain, if I can't find the words we just go slower but he always makes it better. If we are apart i text him and he responds the same way which ill admit isnt as comforting but he is 1000 miles apart so its understandable. So perhaps if you find yourself with a "emotional brat" you can try that. Because it has turned Daddy into my safe place. So anyway, my point is maybe it's more then just being a playful brat, or a BRATTY brat. Maybe she is emotionally bratty.
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Also one other thing that Daddy does if I'm upset and I can't find the words he guess. Normally he gets it right in the 1st try or 2. It really helps me cause I don't have to struggle to find the words. I always start crying harder but it's in relief that he knows. Normally he laughs at this. But he always cares even if it's something silly. I have the best Daddy in the world!
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i think usually I am bratty either because I am hurt or because I feel great which makes me feel spirited. I think brattiness in me is more of an 8/9 year-old thing, and if I can be coaxed into a littler mind, it evaporates for a while. But just like there are daddies out there who don't want brats, I wouldn't want a daddy who couldn't appreciate it at least be mildly amused by my brat side.

 

I don't think it's spoken about much here because this site is really focused on a different dynamic but not all littles are submissive and so I think that plays a role too. I read a pretty interesting blog post recently by a dominant little who was tired as being interpreted as bratty.

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 I've only been in DD/lg for a year now, so I'm still fairly new to the dynamic. I find that a little bit of cheekiness is nice once and a while, but out and out bratty behavior like cursing, name calling, intentionally breaking more serious rules is a red line in the sand for me. I don't like it when the relationship keeps me on edge all the time, it's exhausting. I really don't like metering out punishments that much at the stage I'm at now. I prefer to focus on the more nurturing, warm and snuggly aspects of the dynamic. That might change in time with a different partner. There are times when I just need things to go smoothly, and if my little is pushing my buttons at times like that, she isn't going to get her funishment. Instead, she will get a punishment she doesn't enjoy, like writing 50-100 lines.

 

 It is a bit of a blurry line between a sub or little being playfully bratty and being a real pain in the neck. I think it's different for everyone, and in my case, it's dependant upon my mood. It's something I need to work on, because as a Dom, I don't want to feel like I'm being inconsistent with the delivery of discipline. Ultimately, both parties need to have an understanding of what kinds of behavior are acceptable, unacceptable, and what can be tested a bit. If a sub or little is being outright abusive or dismissive towards his/her Dominant, there's a serious problem that needs to be addressed there. From my perspective, the Dominant needs to be able to recognize when their sub or little is being bratty for the sake of attention, or the need for mild reinforcement of the power exchange. Also, the sub or little needs to know when their Dominant is in no mood for such outbursts. It all boils down to communication between partners.

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Princess Katie (DaddyJsPrincess) can be QUITE bratty at times...lol

 

But, from my experience...the "brattiness" is their way of telling you that they want...or, more accurately, NEED..more attention. It is their little way of saying: "Hey Daddy, pay attention to me!". It's not really so much that they want to be reprimanded, just that they want your attention and if it is at the hands of a spanking or whatever...so be it.  (Being an actual father of three children, I have learned this quite well).

 

Littles...as with any child...needs structure, rules and LOTS of attention...if they aren't getting them, they will act out. It's just the way it works...lol.  So, if you aren't sure what they are trying to get your attention for...simply ask them.

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Princess Katie (DaddyJsPrincess) can be QUITE bratty at times...lol

 

But, from my experience...the "brattiness" is their way of telling you that they want...or, more accurately, NEED..more attention. It is their little way of saying: "Hey Daddy, pay attention to me!". It's not really so much that they want to be reprimanded, just that they want your attention and if it is at the hands of a spanking or whatever...so be it. (Being an actual father of three children, I have learned this quite well).

 

Littles...as with any child...needs structure, rules and LOTS of attention...if they aren't getting them, they will act out. It's just the way it works...lol. So, if you aren't sure what they are trying to get your attention for...simply ask them.

 

But for me sometimes asking me isn't helpful. I have a very hard time finding the words and from past relationships with guys who didn't care I developed the typical "nothing is wrong" answer because it easier then trying to explain what I couldn't find the words to explain. It took him a bit but Daddy started to understand that "nothing" meant I don't know how to explain it. And it took me a while to understand that I can stop saying "nothing" and just say "I don't know". Now we have a very good system. It really is about communication and the patience to understand that sometimes communication can be hard for us littles.

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Yes! Princess K's Daddy said it perfectly!  The times I have been really "bratty" and acting out have been the times when I really just needed Daddy's attention most. Maybe I was having a very anxious day and just needed extra attention, or maybe he had been spending too much time away. There were always pouting moments and stomping moments, where I was just expressing my frustration of not getting something that I REALLY REALLY wanted, but they were all within the dynamic we had chosen for ourselves.  I was allowed to pout when upset about not getting my way, but my Daddy would always be so good about it and say "I can't take you to the park today like we planned, but I promise we can go another day this week."  And then the pouting would stop and I'd wrap my arms around him excitedly and tell him I loved him and all was ok again! 

 

But just like actual children - every little has a different personality!  Some are just more mischievous then others! 

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No one likes someone who is just mean and spiteful. I prefer people who are bratty and fierce in a playful way and I have no interest in people who are quite and meek. I could never stay interested in interacting with someone meek long enough to be friends with them let alone be more than friends. I am a brat myself so if you lack a strong enough personality to engage me on the same level we probably won't be good friends.

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Guest starrflower

It was nice to read these answers.  I am still figuring myself out.  My brattiness comes out at certain times and I would need a strong dominant I think.  One that does not get overwhelmed easily.   but I do go back to my submissive cuddly self that just wants to be held.  

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Guest Acenya

From a brat's point of view~

 

I see many people here divide brats into two categories, but I don't think that's accurate - there are as many "brat types" as there are brats.

The stereotypical "nightmare", foot stomping, needy, spoiled princess could be some daddy's perfect little one.

Being manipulative and genuinely hurtful however doesn't equal a brat, that's just an abusive person.

 

As long as I've been part of the community, I've identified as a brat. I'm not apologetic about it and I make it known.

My bratty behaviour is heavily linked to masochism. I don't get my kicks out of being praised, I'm there for the punishment.

I enjoy questioning my caregiver's authority to keep them on their toes. I don't like to submit, I like to be forced into submission.

 

Like with all types of relationships, compatibility is important. For instance, I would be best matched with a brat tamer, a sadistic daddy.

We would both benefit from each other's personality traits - my cheeky attitude and mischief wouldn't be an issue cause my partner gets

his thrill from punishing me for it, while as I happily deal with the consequence to my behaviour. 

 

Some additional things I'd like to point out:

  • Nothing I do is done with actual ill intent.

I don't actually hurt or insult my caregiver when I act up.

  • There are general rules and then there are serious boundaries.

Breaking a rule could be staying up past bedtime, for example, which I will be punished for in some form - that sort of rules I might break. 

Crossing a boundary however would be something that I know is inexcusable and I would never do it. 

  • I'm not always bratty. 

There'll be moments of surprises when I actually do what I'm told and it can feel like an achievement for the caregiver.

 

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Guest MonsterDaddy

The only way I know how to answer this to say that I won't know until we're interacting. Sometimes what others see as bratty I see as just plain rude. I think there is a difference. I like bratty when it is fun, but I don't like bratty when it is rude. And I don't think it's that fine of a line either. If there is a smile behind it, bring it on and let's enjoy ourselves. If there isn't a smile and she's just being rude, then no thank you.

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